Not the best pic i know. I was out with Explorer Scouts in the snow for a night wide game and it was rather chilly to say the least but, and here the sales pitch....i was toasty warm and dry in my Ice Crew thermal, Rab photon hoody, powerstretch top, urban buff, thorlo socks and xa pro 3 d ultra. And again another comment on how good my petzl tikka xp was.